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December 19, 2012

Free Energy Generator Head Scratcher

at 6:18 am. Filed under What Were They Thinking

 

Have a look at this Free Energy Generator Head Scratcher. It is obviously a hoax but how was it done? My bet is there is a battery in the meter and a battery in the motor. This way when the leads are shorted out the meter reads the internal battery voltage and when the motor leads are shorted it connects the small battery to the motor. I was thinking that if there was a large enough overhead power lines this might have some possibility but the Mythbusters did there experiments on this and based on their results this coil would not do anything… Any thoughts?


 

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23 Responses to “Free Energy Generator Head Scratcher”

  1. azog Says:

    There are a few things to point out:

    The coil is 8 turns, about an inch in diameter. I estimated a 12 inch length, and using one of the many online inductance calculators, you get roughly 0.13 uHenries, or 130 picohenries. The magnet is stationary, so won’t produce any field to generate current, so you get 0v.

    Beyond that is the fact that he never really zooms in on the device. There are two huge globs of hot-wax attaching the magnet to the coil. I would bet pizza that he glommed a large amount of hot-wax onto a batter (or couple of batteries) to hide them from casual observation.

  2. Adric Says:

    Im not against the possibility it was induction, but they would need a blocking diode somewhere in it. so even if the coils are magically powering it im guessing there is still something wonky in the meter and or the motor. Which is where my money is. The only thing going for the induction theory, is they dont do a full 360 sweep when he tries to show how out in the middle of nowhere he is.

  3. Jeff Says:

    There’s another piece of equipment not shown in the video, generating a magnetic field.

  4. Rob Says:

    Fake. There’s two sets of contacts on the motor.
    http://www.flickr.com/photos/brickmodder/8287716991/in/photostream

  5. Rob Says:

    Azog, that’s actually a really good theory. I hadn’t thought of that!

  6. mike Says:

    Could it be electrical noise from high voltage power lines above or behind him, only reason i see to film it outside and show “nothing around”.

  7. Chris Rouse Says:

    Yep just another Youtube Crackpot, there is a lot of those Free Energy Generator jokers on youtube.

  8. Stan Says:

    Perhaps he is very near a radio/tv station tower – that is if we were to believe its real at all.

  9. eSilviu Says:

    1. motor is fake: in the housing there is a smaller motor to spin the shaft + a battery/or a supercapacitor. size allows for this.
    2. maybe the battery is used to charge the supercapacitor
    3. both 9V battery and coil-magnet assembly are used just to close the circuit between internal battery and the small motor. presumption fits well with the fact that motor seems to spin faster wile on 9V battery (so both sources are series connected)
    4. those 6V at the coil-magnet assembly could be stored by a SMD capacitor encapsuled in the glue that holds the coil and magnet. more, the glue hides the fact that coil is made from 2 separate parts, each connected to one end of SMD capacitor. A SMD diode connected in parallel with the capacitor could close the circuit for the battery-motor to work.

    anyone has a better explanation?

  10. eSilviu Says:

    solution 2, even better:
    1. magnet is fake: it contains 2 x 3V lithium battery (=> those 5.9V on the “coil”) + 1 or 2 small neodymium magnets (=> “magnet” sticks to the metal barrel; a magnet that size should be much harder to remove from a iron part)
    2. coil is in fact 2 pieces of wire to connect the small battery to the motor; glue hides the separation point.

  11. vic Says:

    Anyone who’s ever connected a motor to a 9V battery knows that’s not how it behaves. It runs really fast and makes a lot of noise. There is probably a battery and a small motor (like a vibration motor) in the housing. The 9V battery is fake too and is simply a short. Note that he never shows the back of the motor for long or in focus at any point in the video.

    The meter is probably wired similarly, a battery is inside and when the coil is connected it acts simply as a short and completes the circuit. Note that when he connects the motor to the coil the voltage does not change by even a single digit on the meter. This would not be the case if the coil was producing any power.

  12. h_2_o Says:

    my guess is a batteries in the motor itself as trying to machine neodymium (to hide batteries) is extremely difficult because of their hardness and brittleness and the fact that the waste material is both very hazardous and flammable. an edm or water-jet is most often used when cutting them. Also as soon as the coating comes off of those from machining them it really starts to flake so i would doubt that is the case.

    my thought is that the batteries are in the motor itself and the wire is real, just using it to complete the circuit.

    on a side note trusting mythbusters for anything at all is not the best idea. good entertainers, maybe, good at actually using any real science, math, or physics to give a correct answer is wrong, when they do get it right normally I’ve seen them give the wrong answer as to why it is right.

  13. Jeff Korman Says:

    I notice a faint blurring in the video just around the device. I wonder if there isn’t a battery in middle of the coil that was edited out?

  14. Robotics Job Search Says:

    Is there a prize for getting it right (Send an email to contest @ hackedgadgets.com with “Name the Trick Contest” as the subject…)

    My guess is that the dial on the voltmeter is 180 degrees off so the it is actually functioning as an Amp Meter when he uses it (and there is a battery and smaller motor inside the casing as everyone else says.)

  15. LAN Says:

    @Robotics Job Search
    a 9V battery has a lot of ESR so you don’t get much more than an amp new.

    i’m in favor of the hidden below the glue, bottom batteries, they are 3V lithium cells so the voltage is just about right. You can see that it does run slowwer with the coil, showing the source has more esr.
    Those toys’ motors are preppared to run from AA batteries, that have a certain ESR, if you power them from a big power supply they’ll run faster and get really hot fast, if you power them with a 12V lead battery, they’ll just explore XD (or eat the contact)

  16. tytower Says:

    Well he gave me a good laugh at Christmas so good for him
    I made one similar and got zero volts

    However any piece of wire will pick up radio waves and favours the frequency the length is cut to.
    The center tap might produce some voltage as might the ends but in my location zilch

    Thanks again for the bit of fun at Christmas

  17. tytower Says:

    If you make up one of these here is a proof that some voltage is obtainable.
    Put a multimeter set to voltage across either side of the main coil and the other to the ground base of the magnet.

    My coil was built with the insulation left on so there is no contact between the coils and the magnet.

    I got up to 250 millivolts there and about 25 mV from the end of the middle coil to ground ??
    ??

  18. tytower Says:

    I am just wondering if I make everything 10 times larger will I get 2.5V form it and if so how much current might I get?

  19. Adric Says:

    tytower i bet you get the same without a magnet, the magnet unless its moving does nothing. also i bet you have your meter in AC mode, since nothing is blocking return path, at best you could do with a motor is get it to twitch backwards and forwards.

  20. tytower Says:

    No,you are not correct . My meter is in DC and as I said before any length of wire acts as an antenna . I realised afterwards that my fingers holding the probes add to the voltage readings. Without voltage generated by my fingers the voltage on the coil was about 50mV DC. Also strangely you will find the magnet is attracted to the coil as you make it . The coil is copper only so explain that one ?

  21. Adric Says:

    you might have steel core copper wire. if you nip off a bit of the wire and its attracted to the magnet then you have either a steel core copper wire or some sort of new magic ive not seen. As for your fingers, you are likely (through lipids in the skin) making a small battery between the copper/steel wire and your silver or stainless steeltipped voltmeter probe

  22. Alan Parekh Says:

    Sounds like some interesting results tytower. If you have a video of the results on Youtube I would love to have a look.

  23. ohriley Says:

    there are many good ideas in the comments above, but there is an easy explanation for this affect. first, notice the meter reads negative voltage. there is no voltage being generated, magnets are polarized. the armature in the motor is rotating via the magnetic field he has created with a hard drive magnet combined with the 2 magnets in the motor. placement of the hard drive magnet is key….

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