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iHacked has a video that shows the method to repair your XBox 360 by allowing the GPU solder joints to reflow. You may have seen the towel method that looks simple but has questionable results. "Generally, the 3rrod error is caused by a solder problem, where points on the GPU/CPU have worked loose – or a temperature problem causing the same result. Following this guide, you should be able to fix these joints, quickly and easily! We have used this process to repair over 10 Xbox360s successfully."
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May 11th, 2008
All those 360s failing because of there crappy CPU soldering? Tt shouldnt be that hard to tweak the crappy soldering machine on the production line.
Tipical microsoft qualety for you.
May 11th, 2008
I have heard that it was the switch to lead free solder that was the problem. But if that was the problem I shouldn’t take this long to work out the kinks.
May 11th, 2008
This… actually won’t help a lot of launch consoles. The 3xRRoD is the ‘generic’ error code. It could mean anything from I can’t figure out my security code, to the GPU is overheating.
Also, this has nothing to do with the paste. None. It was because Microsoft had to switch to PB-Free (lead free) solder at the very last second in the development cycle of the console–and unlike lead solder, you can get ‘tin whiskers’ from the pb-free solder. This is why the towel trick works–it melts the tin whiskers and they stop making the GPU short circuit.
May 11th, 2008
I would not consider this or even call it a reflow, in fact that is very misleading. I would call this more of a pressure/aggitation to regain contacts on bad solder joints. I have several reflow stations and there is a huge difference between what they are doing and actually reflowing a board. normally the posts here are very accurate, but this time, IMHO this is nothing more than misleading.
May 11th, 2008
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May 11th, 2008
Wow, I never knew *carpet* was an appropriate work surface for motherboard repair…
May 11th, 2008
Wow, very misleading. Stupid MS using brackets that pop the solder, theres one stupider thing about the 360, the build plan.
The build plan requires the box to be opened and closed 4 times. The thing is a MASSIVE pain to open, even with the tool.
The really bad part is, they KNOW it’s the ‘x’ clamps and they haven’t changed it on the 65nm that came out last fall. They make NO money off of the free 3 year warranties and they don’t fix that crap, wtf?
And lets not even start on how easy it is to hack. Firmware patch? The hell is that?
May 11th, 2008
“The really bad part is, they KNOW it’s the ‘x’ clamps and they haven’t changed it on the 65nm that came out last fall. They make NO money off of the free 3 year warranties and they don’t fix that crap, wtf?”
actually about that as a small business owner and having to purchase items as well (granted nothing near the quantity of ms) i can understand somewhat why they are doing what they are doing. if they have a massive stockpile of components because of a purchasing agreement i can see the bean counters showing more of a profit fixing bad units rather than doing it the correct way. Granted this is not a popular solution to anyone but honestly i can understand them doing so for such reasons.
May 11th, 2008
warranty shipping + warranty man hours < 8 screws, 8 bolts, 16 washers?
I have a friend that warranties his box every 2-3 months and he’s not the only one. No WAY can that add up
May 12th, 2008
My first thought was: “alright!! a hot electronics chick!”
Then I saw her put the motherboard directly on the carpet…
Then I didn’t see any actual reflow soldering…
False alarm; just a hot xbox chick, I guess.
May 12th, 2008
Very bold girl for working with motherboard on a carpet.
May 12th, 2008
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May 12th, 2008
Thank you for sharing
May 12th, 2008
I work for a communications equipment company, and we had big troubles using lead free BGAs. Mostly is stemmed from the fact that the lead free parts need higher reflow temps than the leaded process. If you use the lower temps, the BGAs do not bond with the pads correctly and can fracture from the pads when they go through temperature differences.
May 12th, 2008
I have fixed around 60 xboxes with this method and only had a few failures my first one was done 7 months ago and it is still working well check my ebay details if you want.
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May 13th, 2008
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May 13th, 2008
Lost my interest and respect when she set a circuit board on carpet. Any first year electronics student will tell you that is very stupid. Carpets are full of static electricity throughout the year and in all climates. Just because it doesn’t zap doesn’t mean it isn’t damaging to electronics. The fact she also handles it while sitting on that carpet makes it even worse! Even if a static charge doesn’t kill a (integrated)circuit, it can severely weaken it and its reliability. Considering the Xbox360 is a piece of crap just waiting to find an excuse to die, this is pushing it.
I was expecting a heat gun somewhere in this video, no such luck.
Geez, stick with lead, it works.
May 15th, 2008
Done this myself on 2 xbox. It worked good for a couple of month then the red lights come back.